One of the final interviews with Euronymous 1993 from Kill Yourself! Mag

You have just started a black metal shop, Helvete, so could you please inform us how things are working with it? How your records has sold, and what was the reason you decided to form a shop which is dedicated to extreme black metal music…

We started Helvete because it’s exactly the kind of shop I should like to buy records myself, and we only had a couple of bad shops selling trendy Death Metal and Disco. A few months ago we had to close it down because of all the journalists after the arrest of Count Grishnackh (BURZUM). But we will open again soon at another place. The records sold ok, but it was going better all the time.


Euronymous was also working with Deathlike Silence Productions, so now I’m forced to ask what kind of music the band has to offer before he signs them, does it necessarily have to be Black Metal? And what about the rumours which tell he is going to work with Darkthrone in near future…

I sign only the best bands in the world, in my opinion. I WILL NEVER sign a band which exists because of a trend. All the DSP bands will be something special. Most of the labels just spread around a lot of mass produced shit, but we will stand above all that. When people buy a DSP release they will know they buy a ultimate in blackness and quality, with only bands who believe 100% in what they write, I dont sign a band if I like the only, I must think they are best in the world before i sign them. As for DARKTHRONE, they had a four album deal with PEACEVILLE, and they would get a lot of shit if they would break the deal. We will see what happens in the future, nobody knows what DARKTHRONE will do, or if they will even exist.


It’s weird the Tormentor- album never saw the light of day so I’m just wondering what went wrong… But now to the next subject… You, Euronymous, were the person who found the dead body of DEAD (Vocals), so let’s talk about it, if you dont mind… How did you feel when you saw the corpse of your friend, and what about the rumours which say that you have taken photo’s of DEAD’s dead body…

I’m not into this business for FUN, so of course I wasnt scared. It’s not every day you get the chance to see and touch the real corpse. And it’s important to learn one thing when you are dealing with the darkside: There is NOTHING which is too sick, evil or perverted.


Euronymous said that Dead was bored with all the wimps, trendies and false Black Metallists in the world so he decided to end his earthly life, so now I would like to you to tell us a bit more about this.

Dead wanted to make evil music for evil people, but the only people he saw were walking around in jogging suits, caps, baseball shoes and being into peace and love. He hated them so much, and saw no longer any reason to waste his time on them.


Mayhem has got a status of a cult band and people in the underground have respected them, but lately there has been talking that Mayhem is only riding with the reputation of their MLP and hasn’t release anything new in these years, so let’s see what Euronymous has to say about all this…

I like that you asked this, because it’s going to be VERY embarassing for those people in a month’s time soon when i’m writing this. Because when this magazine is printed, the new MAYHEM album is finally out! We have finished the recordings of “De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas” now, and we only have to mix it, and that will happen in a couple of days. We have worked on this album for six years, and it’s full of brand new ideas. We could have put out a lot of shit like for example CANNIBAL CORPSE are doing, but we have taken our time because we want this album to be the BEST! People dont know what they are talking about, but they will see. And if we need five years to make the next album, we’ll take the time we need. Listen to the album and will understand what I mean. This is NOT a typical mass release, we have worked HARD on it and have thrown away most of the riffs, and only the perfect are saved.


Euronymous has also re-relesed their classic M- LP “Deathcrush”, through his own label.. So what was the main reason to release it again!?

We decided to put it out to give people something to feed on while they are waiting for the album, and because there still were a lot of people who had the original. I thought why shouldn’t it be available for those who still wanted it. Some have said that it’s bad, that we released it because before only the true old fans had it, and now the trendies will ge it. But the fact is that there were maybe 40 people who had the original and who deserved to have it, and the rest were jerks. There were a lot more “true” people (how I hate that word) who didn’t have it, and I just thought it was only the right thing to do. I still like this album a lot, but our new stuff is so different. I could never make a new “Deathcrush” even if I tried.


Before “Deathcrush” M- LP Mayhem released two demos, so let’s discuss some more about them.

The “Deathcrush” demo is generally the same as the Mini-Album. The “Pure Fucking Armageddon” tape is a bit different though. We don’t spread much demos anymore, but I guess we can still sell them if someone really needs them.


Mayhem, Emperor, Burzum and some other Norwegian black metal bands have got some problems with Finnish black bands, and even death threats have been sent. So now I would like to hear Euronymous’s opinion about all this. Are they really ready to kill because of some stupid fight “Who is true and who’s not?”

I have never sent any death threats to Impaled nazarene like rumors tell, but someone has done so in my name. I have sorted things out with them, and I have nothing against that band, or any other Finnish band. I’m not too much into music of Finnish bands, and I think there’s too much grind and chaos in it. i prefer atmospheres and melodies. But as concerns to your last questions, I have no problem with killing some one in cold blood. Especially if I can get away with it. There are other people which are able to kill too. It has already happened, but I’m not going to say more about that, for obvious reasons.


Count Grishnackh blame’s that we here, in Finland, are nothing but stupid clowns, no so called “true bands” exist here. I hope Euronymous will tell his personal opinion about this>

What Grishnackh says will stand for himself. And I don’t like talking too much about “being true” or not, that word is over used now. I find most of the bands in the world shit, and I think most of the bands who call themselves “true Black metal” were ordinary Entombed clones a year ago. But people can change, of course. I’m not going to give a list of true and false bands, people will have to judge for themselves and will probably get fooled a lot of times before discovering what’s real and what’s not. But know that it’s not enough to put on some corpse paint to make a band. they must have the right spirit, and my way of seeing that is to listen to the music. Generally, if the band is so great that I almost start freezing on my back, I know thy have the necessary feeling for this. i accept nothing less than the greatest. I can also say that I will NEVER accept any band which preaches CHURCH OF SATAN ideas, as they are just a bunch of freedom, and life-loving atheists, and they stand exactly the opposite of me.


In issue #2 of ours, Count Grishnackh said that the “Only true bands from Norway” are Mayhem, Darkthrone and Burzum, the others are just stupid fucking children playing with things they don’t know shit about. But if these three are the “only true ones” why does Immortal and Emperor belong in the “Norwegian Black Circle?” And what about other Norwegian bands such as Thorns, Thou Shalt Suffer, and Satyricon?

Again, Count will have to answer in his own words, I have always supported Emperor and Immortal. But we do have some fake bands here, but I’m not going to give you any names. you will eventually find out.


The next subject will be the belief of Eurononymous, so why don’t we let the man talk.

I believe in a horned devil, a personified Satan. In my opinion all the other forms of Satanism are bullshit. I hate that some peoople think up idiotic ways of making eternal peace in the world and dare to call it Satanism, like so many do. Satanism comes from religious Christianity, and there it shall stay. I’m a religious person and I will fight those who misuse His name. People are not supposed to believe in themselves and be individualists. They are supposed to OBEY, to be the SLAVES of religion.


Many people don’t respect the Norwegian scene anymore because of their large scene with tons of bands. But now we should let Euronymous defend the members of their black metal mafia, which have been blamed trendies. So what does the “boss of the organization” have to say about all this?

I can’t understand how some people can talk that way about Norway. Firstly Immortal is NOT a black metal band, as they are not satanists. And this is something they say themselves. They are into the atmospheres and moods concerning Satanism. Their new look is just a way for them to go deeper into what they have always been into. And even if Count Grishnackh played in OLD FUNERAL, he was exactly the same person then, and he was even making music for Burzum all the time he played in Old Funeral. This is a typical example that people don’t know shit what they are talking about… And further, those who have cared to read the lyrics of Darkthrone’s “Soulside Journey” will know that they are the same Satanic lyrics, which means that “Soulside Journey” IS a black metal album. They changed the style when they realized that all the other members in the band, except for the bass player, wanted to. Darkthrone hasn’t ever been a band where members know each other very well. It sounds a bit weird, but it is true. They discovered that they all wanted to go musically in other directions, and changed everything. And this was a long time before Black metal started to get popular. As a matter of fact black metal was hated when they changed. And it’s bullshit that they do it for big money, because they have got very little money from Peaceville. Maybe $10.000 in all these years together, and that in NOTHING! I would never support Darkthrone if they weren’t worth it. If they were trendy, the would have toured the world and made videos for MTV. Instead of the two of them have moved far away to the forest and they have seen each other maybe twice in the year. And I have to say that those who talk about a big black metal trend here should keep silent if the don’t have eyes to see with. We have four Black metal bands with albums out, and a couple of smaller garage bands. And we have maybe 30 die hard black metal fans and 700-1000 of those bastards who listen to commercial black metal such as Deicide. I think Darkthrone sells around 5000 in this country. How can people compare it to Sweden for example, where Entombed sells 30,000?! The day Mayhem sells 20,000 records in Norway, Burzum is on MTV every day and Nuclear Blast signed eight Norwegian Black metal bands, THEN you can start talking about a trend. Some people are so stupid that they call everything a trend, even if you only sell ten copies of your product. According to them it’s a trend to eat.


Pointing to the question before: Maybe at the time when this interview was made there were only four bm bands with cd’s out in Norway. But now things have changed. Just look at it: Gorgoroth (one album), Satyricon (two albums), Forgotten Woods (one album), Isengard (two albums), Hades (one album), Ancient (one album), Burzum (five albums), Darkthrone (five albums), Carpathian Forest (one album), Emperor (two albums). And there’s also a bunch of bands which aren’t strickly satanic, but which deal with paganism, dark and deep forest, smowy mountains and Viking mythology, like In the Woods, Immortal, Storm, Ildfrost, Ulver, Gehenna, Enslaved, etc, which have released albums too… When I listen to all these bands I can hear clear infulences from such bands as Bathory (!!!) and Hellhammer, so how much have these kinds of bands influenced Mayhem? Could it be possible that Mayhem woudn’t even exist without these “old gods?”

It is very hard to say. I’d like to think that we would have been the first evil band if the older bands wouldn’t have existed, but I don’t know. Venom was our first and major influence, later Bathory, Hellhammer, Sodom and Destruction, they have inspired us to wheere we stand today. I’m sure we would sound very different. It’s about Venom, Bathory and Hellhammer ad the old evil bands, but nobody mentioned Sodom and Destruction. They came at the same time as Bathory and Hellhammer and their first albums are masterpieces of black stinking metal! Nobody manages to make music like that now. So many copy Bathory but I have never heard any copying Destruction, exept for Necronomicon. Some of these old gods have wimped out, but as long as I live Mayhem will not be a wimp band. We may change some things but the darkness will always be there…


Mayhem had released a live LP in the memory of Dead through Obscure Plasma Records (Italy), so why did the band decide to release a live LP before the studio LP, and what did Euronymous think about this record in general? And what about those two studio songs which are included in the limited album version?

The live album hasn’t been out for a very long time, so I haven’t heard much response about it, but I, myself, like it a lot. The studio album is coming, but it was important to put this album as half official release before some one put it out as a bootleg totally beyond our control. The studio songs in it are from 1990, we didn’t have more than one finished song them. The other song, “Carnage” is from “PFA” demo, and it was made already in the year 1985.



Then what about the deal with Obscure Plasma? Was the deal only for this one album, and is Obscure Plasma a label which deserves Mayhem itself? How has things worked?

It is just a deal for the one album. Obscure Plasma sells this album and they will get all the money, in return Roberto (the boss) will send me a free master tape for his band Monumentum to put out on DSP. It’s a cool deal, I think I’m very satisfied with the work Roberto did for it. The artwork is just incredible. We decided to do it with Obscure Plasma just because I trust in them and because of the Monumentum deal. I like the label itself, although I think most of the releases there are shit. The Sadist EP is great and the Monumentum/Rotting Christ EP is one of the best releases ever, it’s ingenious. Obscure Plasma is one of the few labels which deserve to do something with Mayhem. We have got several offers from other labels. Both the more common labels like Osmose, Decapitated and others and bigger labels like Earache. But we have always said no.


And what does Euronymous think about “G- Principle”: “Black metal is only for underground, you aren’t allowed to earn some money with black metal bands and it definitely shouldn’t be spreaded through big labels”? Does Euronymous agree with this, or is all this just bullshit of jealous bastards?

I disagree about black metal staying underground only. I thought so before, but I have changed my mind. The idea about underground, selling little and only to “true” people, not earning money, not thinking that you are bigger than your fans and so on, everything comes from Hardcore. And how the hell we can know who are “true” and who are not, as most of the people who call themselves true are just normal idiots. original black metal bands such as Venom never had to be in underground to be accepted! Then why should we? The underground is both a means for the hardcore people to put us down and control us (at least it was before, they have mostly disappeared now but their ideas still linger on), and a bad excuse for bad bands to be equal with great bands. Those who scream most about being in “underground” is also often those who make so bad music that they don’t have a chance to get big themselves. I think that if we could make black metal bigger than it is now, we could have a great movement growing with hundreds of brutal soldiers spreading sorrow, death and evil in the world. Just look at the punks and the MC-people, they don’t have to think about this, and they have came to a point that they have their own worlds with their own women, their own pubs, their own concert places, and so on. We will never be able to do the same if we work hard to earn as little money as possible in order not to be commercial. We must get rid of the “underground” ideas. The real underground have nothing to do with this. It’s of course not right if people start playing black metal in order to become rich and nothing more (then they should choose some other music style anyway!), but there is something in between. I wouldn’t mind making DSP big and earn a million, as long as I don’t change my ways of thinking and being, which is the real important being here. If there were one million black metal fans in the world, most of them would be jerks, but there would be really many true and brutal people as well. The bigger we get, the more we can manipulate people into thinking like us.


That was all my friend, but there’s still time for last comments… And thanks for your time!

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Interview with Euronymous 1992 unknown origin

Have you changed during all the years you have been into Death Metal, or has the music changed you?

Well, we’ve always tried to go further and further into darkness and evil and we get inspiration for this by listening to all the ancient Black Metal bands, and to a lot of the new ones. It’s important to get the right atmosphere from the music to become more evil and to power to do satanic actions. During the last year we have tried to become darker by oppressing human feelings, by trying not to laugh or smile, to have no feelings for girls except for exploitation, and to become more manipulating and egoistic. Death to “love, peace and fun”! Hate, War and Sodomy!


How was it to start up a band like MAYHEM? Have you had any problems?

MAYHEM has had problems all the time since the beginning in ’84. The most difficult thing has been (the lack of) money. But in the beginning we didn’t have any really serious problems. Of course people didn’t take us very seriously, but who gives a fuck about people.


How are you distributing your releases?

So far we’ve been doing it very underground, but we’ll start getting bigger distribution through labels like SPV from now on and it will all be done more professionally. We need it in order to survive, so do the bands, and it’s just to bad to be sitting there and seeing shit bands like OBITUARY earning all the money and getting all the publicity. They don’t deserve it and we have started a war against bands like that. In the future we’ll start up a lot of actions. You’ll see.


I know you’re interested in communism. Have you been to any communist countries, if yes, what have been your emotions about it?

I’ve been very interested in communism for a while, especially the extreme countries like Albania, Kampuchea, North Korea and so on. I have to say that I have studied so much that I know that real communism would be the best possible system, BUT as I HATE people I don’t want them to have a good time, I’d like to see them rot under communist dictatorship. Ceausescu was great, we need more people like him, Stalin Pol Pot too. I’ve been to Poland, Hungary and Czechoslovakia in the (good) old days, and was about to go to Albania, although it didn’t turn out. Poland was quite all right, but it could have been even MORE grey and depressing. I like secret police, cold war and worshipping of dictators. I like bugging and spying on people, torture chambers in police stations and that people suddenly “disappear”.


Is the life you are living OK for you? If you could change something what would it be?

Yeah, it’s quite OK. I’d just like to have extremely much money. Then DSP would be a big company, we would all have the POWER in this part of the music business, and I would live in luxury with a harem and watch the children in Africa starve to death on video.


What is the ultimate goal for you with your band/label?

I don’t think we have any real definite goal, we started to play the music that was right for us, and we have done it for 8 years now. If we can spread terror, fright and hate in the world, and if we can manipulate lots of children into Satan’s arms, and if we could become rich and have lots of power over others, it would be quite perfect, though as for the label, it was started because all other labels we shit and released mostly idiotic music. So we wanted to see to it that the greatest bands in the world got out on vinyl. And to create a Black Metal cult label with evil music by evil people for evil people released by evil people. I hate to see normal idiots thinking this is FUN and interfering in OUR world. Look at all the HC labels that are releasing “Death” Metal now, it sucks! It’s important that WE are in control, we who belong here, we should kick the punks back to where they came from so they can chew their carrots in the gutter where they belong.


How many records have you sold? What reaction has their been? Do people write back to you after they have bought an LP from you?

We have sold 2000 MERCILESS records and 1000 BURZUM records so far, but this is nothing compared to what we’ll sell now we make good distribution. We get very great reactions on our releases, simply because they ARE very great. We release only the best music that is possible to find.


If a guy listening to POISON, BON JOVI etc. Writes to you and wants to buy MERCILESS LP, will you sell it to him? I mean, can everybody buy records from you?

I won’t be able to know what music people listen to, and even if a guy writes that he’s very true and so on, he might turn out to be a complete idiot. So it’s impossible to discriminate even though we would like to do it. Also we need to sell records for economical reasons. We have been thinking about making a questionnaire for people to answer, and have them to send a photo before they were allowed to by records, but we can just forget about that. Until we become very rich everybody can buy records from us.


You’re totally anti-Earache right? Have you been like this since the first release of Earache? Could you elaborate on this?

No, I’m not anti-Earache at all! You’re obviously thinking of “anti-mosh” number on our records, but this dosen’t have anything to do with Earache. Of course it’s incredibly stupid with “mosh 4” but that’s their problem. Many years ago “mosh” was a very common word in the “underground” , you had to “mosh” to be cool, and these idiots, the “moshers”, with their Bermuda shorts, skateboards and shitty caps on their ugly heads were for us the lowest a human could possibly become. They were the symbol of everything that was trendy and which was destroying Black Metal, and we started a war against it . Now the moshers are more or less gone, but the spirit still lives on in the brains of the hardcore pigs and trendy Mtv audience who think that Death Metal should be a normal and funny thing for everybody. This is why our records this way. As for Earache, I have great respect for Dig, because when he started up he never signed bands BECAUSE they sold. Who had heard about NAPALM DEATH before he released their LP’s who had heard about CARCASS and ENTOMBED? MORBID ANGEL? Except for the “Underground” NONE, Earache isn’t a trendy label, it’s those who buy Earache records that are mostly trendy.


Your life has been pretty hard… How have you managed to survive, to have MAYHEM going and even run a label, though you haven’t got enough money to buy food?

That isn’t a problem anymore, we had a very hard time a couple of years ago, but I have managed to borrow some money which keeps the business going strong. Of course we don’t live in luxury and we don’t have much equipment, but it will be better in the future.


If MAYHEM would reach Norwegian Top 10, would you split up?

It’s a difficult question. I don’t think we would split up, but we would have to do something. If we were in top ten, it would mean that people were thinking we were funny and not dangerous, so we would have to make a couple of actions to make them hate us. On the other hand I would not mind earning idiots money. But this will never happen anyway, as MAYHEM is absolutely NOT a funny band and if someone tries to fuck with us he will discover that he’s messing with the wrong people. The entire concept behind MAYHEM is to dark for normal people to be into.


Have you got a certain place to rehearse with MAYHEM? Are the things with moving quicker now?

Things will go fast from now on, We’ll get a big rehearsal place together with THORNS/ARCTURUS/BURZUM, and it wont take long before the MAYHEM album is out.


What was the reason to sign BURZUM? Did you know the Count before signing BURZUM?

Yes, I’ve known the Count for some time, and I signed BURZUM after listening to the demo. It had a really bad sound and no vocals, but after being into this for ten years I know when a band has something really great to come up with, even if it’s a bad sounding demo or a rehearsal. And with a personality like the Count – it just has to turn out great.


What do you think of SARCOFAGO being shown on Mtv?

I think it sucks, but as they have wimped out totally, they don’t belong into the Black Metal world anyway, so even if they take part in destroying Death Metal, they’re at least not destroying Black Metal. On other hand, even VENOM was shown on Mtv, so I’m a little in doubt if we should be so much against it after all. If VENOM did certain things in the old days, who are we to criticize the originators?


If you could change something in the world, what would it be then?

I would get all things back to what they were during the cold war, then I would mix it with the barbarianism of the Viking ages and middle age. I would make people more religious and fanatic. And I would have taken over the Black/Death metal movement from the beginning and seen to it that only evil bands could have existed. And I would have lots of money while others were starving. I would NOT do anything with starving children in Africa, if you’re thinking about that. They can die.

Attila on the death of Euronymous

“I was at home [after the recording of ‘De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas’] and I was in contact with him [Euronymous] and also with Varg. We would call each other and that would be quite okay. It was once every two weeks we were talking by phone. We were talking about some tours we could do. I was in Hungary, but suddenly in the summer I lost both their contacts. I tried to call the guys but no one picked up the phone. I was thinking maybe people are on vacation and I didn’t pay much attention. I think it was in the autumn when some of my friends told me, ‘Hey, you have been friends with this band called MAYHEM from Norway?’ and I told them, ‘Yeah, we recorded something and we are hoping that it is going to be released soon,’ and they said, ‘Well, I just heard that the guitarist has been murdered.’

“I remember that first moment. I thought, ‘You are an idiot, you don’t know the fucking story, it’s not the guitarist, but it’s the ex-vocalist that died, this is bullshit,’ and he said, ‘No, I just read it in the Hungarian Metal Hammer, so check it yourself.’

“So I was thinking, ‘What the fuck is going on?’ I went down to the grocery store and picked up the Metal Hammer and there it was, a very small news item saying Euronymous was murdered by Varg Vikernes and I couldn’t fucking believe my eyes.

“Snorre [Ruch, also implicated in the murder] was sending me some letters before he was in the band. He was supposed to be the new guitarist of MAYHEM. Actually, Euronymous was very proud to introduce me to him as the guy who was going to write the new songs. Euronymous said he was burnt out after the ‘De Mysteriis…’ recording and needed some fresh blood in the band. We became very good friends. In fact, everyone in the band was really cool to me and I was friends with everyone, even Hellhammer, although he was a bit more isolated, but the rest of the guys I was in a good contact with and when I heard this news I realized, ‘Fuck, I couldn’t reach anyone.’

“When you read it with your own eyes in a magazine like Metal Hammer, it does make some sense. So I got upset, you can imagine, and it turned out to be completely, utterly true, so was a bit of heavy information for me and I didn’t know what to do or what to say, so actually it was very shocking for me.

“Of course, I was pissed off at Varg, but in a strange way he was a close friend of mine too, so it’s something you can’t really understand. I don’t know the right word in English, but I couldn’t understand exactly what was going on. I fell into some kind of depression for a while after this. And the next time I heard about MAYHEM was when Hellhammer called me maybe one year later. He was actually approaching me because Euronymous was supposed to release the TORMENTOR tape and Hellhammer had a copy and he was asking me if he could release it on his new label, Nocturnal Art, so we started to talk about that and at the same time he sent me a promo copy of the ‘De Mysteriis…’ album.”

Interview with Euronymous February 1992 Isten Mag

A lot has happened to Mayhem lately, like vocalist Dead’s death and parting ways with bassist Necro Butcher. You have also recruited a new member, if I’m not mistaken. Tell is about all this!

Euronymous: “The new member in Mayhem is Occultus. He used to sing in Abhorrent/Thyabhorrent, his vocals will be very different in Mayhem though. He’s a total black metal head and very self-destructive, which is very good regarding our stage show. Yes, Necro Butcher is out of the band, because he’s become a totally normal person with his own family (spit), and he has no longer anything to do with the black metal/death metal lifestyle. As for Dead – he hated this planet and all living creatures on it, the only thing which kept him here was his love for the ancient death/black metal lifestyle with face paint, spikes, leather, black clothes, Satanism and brutality. Today when all the so-called ‘death’ metal bands are wearing white clothes, jogging suits, basketball shoes, bermuda shorts, and have society lyrics (SPIT!), he thought that everything he lived for was destroyed and saw no longer any reason to live. The trend people killed him and we have declared WAR.”


From now on you’ll be a trio then. However, your songs are written for two guitars, and that also affects the sound. Are you looking for a fourth member and what kind of person would he be? Just a ‘brutal’ person perhaps?

Euronymous: “The Mayhem songs have always been made for only one guitar so that won’t be any problem. Besides, we won’t play very much live because there are mostly only trend people coming anyway and I refuse to play for such lowlife. That would only be if we could cut them up during the show and having them running out the emergency exit, screaming and bleeding with parts of their bodies missing. On the other hand, it’s good to earn their money, of course. Anyway, if we should decide to have a fourth member some day, it would have to be a very special kind of person. Those who call themselves ‘brutal’ today are mostly fake trendies who have never done anything brutal in their lives. A member in Mayhem would have to be a total madman who followed the black metal/death metal lifestyle, looking the way Bathory, Hellhammer, Destruction, etc. did in the old days, and he should cultivate hate, war and DEATH (and I’m not thinking about the band Death!). He would have to have a BLACK personality.”


Didn’t Dead’s death affect you in a major way? You have talked about it quite openly, and from what I’ve gathered, you also took some photos of his corpse?

Euronymous: “Although it was me who found him and had to crawl through his brains to get into his house, I don’t think it affected me very much. Of course, he was a friend, but I know he wanted to die and then the only right thing he could do was to give his life to the Darkness. It would have been wrong to prevent him from doing it. Besides, when I say I’m into DEATH metal, I mean it. I hate when people say that they’re into death, and when it comes to the point they’re just life-loving humanitarian false trendies. OF COURSE I took photos, wouldn’t you? It’s not every day you get to mess around with a real corpse! Unfortunately.”


What kind of practicing possibilities do you have now, and is the situation stable, whatever that might mean…?

Euronymous: “The situation is still very difficult. I’ve been checking out some places lately and probably we’ll manage to rent a good rehearsal place in a couple of weeks. In the future we’ll join together with Thorns and possibly Darkthrone to make a really good rehearsal place with lots of equipment, and we have been talking about trying to put up a small studio too. We shall see.”


It has been rather quiet on the Deathlike Silence Productions front (Euronymous’ label that is). You’re having some kind of problems, but is it all financial, or is there something else as well? I think the Merciless LP did sell quite well anyway – how much in fact? Is there going to be more editions?

Euronymous: “There have indeed been a lot of problems, mostly economical, but also concerning places to live and so on. Things shall be better in the future, I’m working hard with DSP now, as things finally have started to happen, I have a couple of releases coming up very soon. More about that later on. I’ve sold 2,000 Merciless records so far, which is not enough, there is still a good market for that record. Unfortunately, I shall have to start making CDs because a lot of people are only buying that now. I hate CDs but I need to survive.”


You obviously have a lot of things going with DSP, because there’s been talk about projects with bands like Tormentor, Abruptum, Alastis, Master’s Hammer, Masacre and Rotting Christ. What is it all about? I mean, as far as I know at least Rotting Christ have a deal and so on. I’ve also heard that Darkthrone would make their third LP for DSP after their second with Peaceville. Tell us about that.

Euronymous: “First of all, in April this year (’92) there will be 2 DSP releases coming. First there will be an LP with the Norwegian black metal band Burzum. That LP is unbelievably great, when I write this it’s just recorded. It’s a kind of mixture of Hellhammer, old Bathory and Mayhem (yes!) if you can imagine something like that. It’s very dark, depressive, moody, angry and still melodic and sad. The vocals are extreme, and I’m NOT thinking of the usual ‘growling’ vocals which sound like a dog barking. “A couple of weeks after this, the Abruptum LP will be released. This will be the most gruesome and black album ever, it’s not ordinary music but pure EVIL on vinyl. The guys were torturing each other in the studio, they were whipping, beating, cutting, burning and pouring boiling water over each other DURING the recording, and you can HEAR it from the music that they were SUFFERING! These records will cost FIM 60, SEK/NOK 100, DEM 30, NLG 30, FRF 100, GBP 10, GRD 2900, or USD 15 in Europe (or the equivalent in other currencies), in Eastern Europe the price is USD 10. Outside Europe it’s USD 15 by surface mail or USD 22 by air mail. Postage kills! “The Mayhem LP should be released after this, and then we should hopefully get enough money to send some of the other bands in studio. Rotting Christ don’t have any deal, they just released a mini-LP on Decapitated Rec. while they are waiting for the DSP LP. As for Darkthrone – they wanted to sign on DSP but for practical reasons they will probably stick with Peaceville. Their LP should be out a couple weeks after this mag is printed, GET IT! It’s incredible! Those guys have really understood what this music is really about.” (Yeah, but as for the LP coming out AFTER this mag is printed… Oh well, call that “wishful thinking” or whatever! But who cares… – Ed.)


Another personal question here: now that a lot of things have changed in this world of ours, have you stuck to your principles, I mean politically?

Euronymous: “As Mayhem is NOT a political band, I don’t really like to mix topics like this into band interviews, but anyway I’m still keeping the faith. I openly admit that I am a Stalinist and I’m very fascinated by extreme countries like Albania and Rumania in the good old days. I have thought about quitting from the communist party though, but this is just because they are not brutal enough any more. It was much better in the ’70s, when they were very Albania-inspired and the leader even visited Cambodia during the Red Khmer period and had dinner with Pol Pot!! Those were the days!”


You’ve also started a record shop there in Oslo, tell us about that! I suppose you are also running a mail order thing?

Euronymous: “The record shop is called Helvete, which is Norwegian for Hell. I don’t have much yet, due to the fact that it’s very difficult to run a shop with only black/death metal here. The plan is that once I get out a couple of DSP releases, I’ll be able to trade hundreds of records with other labels and hopefully earn some money. A shop like this is needed here (and other places), and if we hadn’t started up a shop for death metal, someone else would. And those persons would most probably have nothing to do with the music, just like all the HC labels vomiting out ‘death’ metal releases all the time now, they should DIE, they don’t have the slightest idea what this music is really about and they are running the whole thing. And it’s better that WE earn the money that inevitably will be earned, than some shitty HC pigs. Yes, we are running mail order too, I’ll have lists available soon. If anyone’s interested, write.”


In the beginning you sold the Merciless album at pretty low price, and aimed to sell it only in the underground. You must’ve known that you’re going to lose money, but did you manage to stick to your principles? On the other hand, don’t you think that the bands deserve better distribution? Is it just a case of you not wanting to be commercial, etc.?

Euronymous: “You are mentioning some topics which have been subjects of intense thinking here. There is obviously an antagonism between being ‘underground’ in the common sense of the word, and the original black metal ideas. If you start to look at how black metal bands were in the ancient days, such as Venom, Mercyful Fate, Hellhammer, Bathory, Destruction, Sodom, etc., you see that they had nothing to do with what is called ‘underground’. They were signed to big labels, they earned well-deserved money and were NOT submitted to the hardcore-laws which are ruling the ‘underground’ today. These laws say that you are not allowed to play death or black metal (!) if you don’t: (1) hate money and refuse to earn anything on what you’ve paid enormous amounts of blood, sweat, money and time for. (2) Are ‘openminded’ and have lots of ‘attitudes’, like being vegetarian, being into peace and love (Fuck off! War and Sodomy!), singing about pollution and other society lyrics or other things that are approved by the moral police (HC pigs). (3) You must absolutely not think that you ARE anything. You must creep for your fans (‘Oh, do you really like us? Thank you’, etc.), you must use most of your life answering thousands of letters or you are being called a ripoff, nobody of course thinks about the fact that it costs a band maybe $25 EACH day just for postage! These people obviously have never tried living on their own and feeling the PAIN of not being able to EAT because you use all your money on postage. “There are other moral laws too but I get too angry when thinking about this. The black metal bands of ancient times didn’t have to think about any of these shitty things, they could go for being BIG, having a huge stage show and earning big money. And nothing was wrong with that. Now, WE have been servants of the ‘underground’ for 8 years. Where do we stand today? We have NO money, sometimes not enough to eat. Our equipment is fucked up, shit, or non-existent. We don’t have proper places to live. This would be no problem if it had been a GAIN for the TRUE SCENE, but take a look at which people we have been slaves for: the underground today consists of short-haired children or trendies with white clothes and jogging suits, HC-moral-police-pigs, and a VERY small percentage of TRUE people. “All these ‘underground’ rules look great at first sight – the music becomes a protest towards the commercial music industry. This is good of course. But on the other hand – they KILL the bands. After 8 years of being broke, I’m starting to become quite fed up. Why shouldn’t I live on the music? Basically I have the choice between two things – staying ‘underground’ and slowly taking the life of the band – in the end I’d have to quit and get myself a job, the band/label is a full-time job so I couldn’t do both. The other thing is to say FUCK OFF to most of the ‘underground’ principles and start to EARN MONEY. Then, I’d be able to make more music with the band, and release tons of great records with great bands. This is of course a much better gain for the true scene. This is why I’ve now decided to do things a little bigger. Still I hate to see big distributors getting their hands on the records, but I simply don’t have a choice. I’ve never wanted to expose this music to trend people, but I realise that I’m dependent on sucking money from them in order to make a decent living. And I have NO bad feelings about taking the money of trendies. This would also help the bands getting the money they deserve, maybe a few of them can even quit their jobs and start living on the music.” “Of course there are limits, I HATE to see Earache bands with videos on MTV, and I was DISGUSTED to see Entombed playing a playback show for discokids on a disco show on Swedish TV. These people shall FEAR this music. We must return to the old days of Venom and the other ancient ones. They were big, but they were NOT commercial! Their music is still ten times more gruesome than all the Morrisound/Sunlight trend recordings of today. Another view – if we don’t do DSP much bigger, someone else will make a black metal label which will start selling good, and what happens then? We sit here, broke and without bands. That shall not happen. Everything may very well be big, but the TRUE ONES must control it.”


Now that the underground is changing or has changed its outlook, do you think that it’s better to give up all that, or would it be wiser just to wait and see what it will be? When you compare the situation now and about four or five years ago, what’s the difference?

Euronymous: “The underground is dead. It has ceased to exist. It has no meaning anymore, since you’re only killing yourself if you blindly follow its rules. Here in Norway, a new and TRUE underground is slowly growing from the darkness, it consists of the TRUE bands and the TRUE fans. All in black clothes and taking the original meaning of DEATH metal into an extremity. All these people HATE a lot, and will take part in the great WAR against the trendies. It’s about time to make an ABYSS between the trendies and the others, they shall have NO ACCESS to this internal (Infernal? – Ed.) fellowship. They shall just be allowed to buy the records and giving us their money. I can actually only admire the glamrock scene here in Oslo, they just don’t accept ANYONE who isn’t exactly like them – make-up and all that shit. Of course this is neither open-minded or ‘kind’, and that’s great. People are supposed to HATE us.”


Did the planned Mayhem tour happen last year? Have you had any gigs lately? Do you try to arrange your gigs all by yourself or what is it like…? Are you an expensive band?

Euronymous: “We had a tour in East-Germany and Turkey. We were supposed to play in Greece and Holland too, but by some unfortunate coincidences it was fucked up. We have not had any gigs since, because of a lot of problems. We were asked by Tormentor (Hungary) to make a tour there and in Rumania, and we’re thinking about that and possibly some other East-European countries as well. We’re not principally an expensive band, we see what we can get compared to the expenses, and if we can get an ok amount of cash, depending on WHERE we play (it’s difficult in e.g. Eastern Europe), we will take the offer. Right now we aren’t able to play live, but that will come. We should also be sure to have a good stage show with impaled pig heads, etc.”


Tell us about your visions of your forthcoming album?

Euronymous: “The new Mayhem LP will be entitled De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas and it will be DARK. If everything goes OK, we’ll record it VERY soon and get it out some time in the summer of ’92. We’ll try to record it by using a good studio which is quite cheap so that should be ok. It will be very massive, as we’ll have two guitars (+ solo) abd two basses. It will be very fast, with lots of dark emotions and moods. I can’t really tell so much about it, anything may still happen (as usual).”


Do you follow all the movements in the underground? And what about your favourite bands at the moment (wasn’t that original?)? Do you listen to any records released by commercial labels? What do you think about bands that don’t give a shit about the underground after they’ve signed a major deal?

Euronymous: “I don’t find it very strange that bands don’t want to be in the ‘underground’ after getting a deal, most of all because they are very busy with touring, rehearsing and doing business. You have to consider that if your use 15 minutes for one letter (which means quite a short letter to someone you haven’t written in a long while to), a band probably gets 20-50 letters each day depending on how known it is, and that would mean 5-12 1/2 hours of steady letter writing EVERY DAY not including interviews (like this one)! I mean – we must get rid of the idea that you’re not allowed to exist as a band if you don’t use half of your life answering letters! It must be up to the band itself, whether it wants to write letters to half the world or not. It irritates me to see people calling bands ripoffs, they obviously have no idea what it means to be buried in mail. It costs a fortune too. Another things is of course when someone has send money for something. Well, I don’t care which label has released a record as long as I like the record, of course. Maybe some HC idiots think that way but they’re also taking stupidity to extremes. About fave bands – they are many and it’s hard to mention a few. Recently I’ve listened a lot to Burzum, and the new Darkthrone is just unbelievable. I also recently discovered The Gathering from Holland – they kill. But of course we have the ancient godz like old Venom, Bathory, Hellhammer etc. There is a lot of shit bands being released today, but if you search, there are some really good ones too.”


One more question: you have Mayhem t-shirts available now, right? How about your music then, because we’re all dying to hear some new Mayhem material (and anxiously waiting for the “De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas” of course)…?

Euronymous: “There is actually a record out now including a Mayhem tune, it’s a compilation album released on CBR in Sweden. On the CD version there is even one more song (I hate that), and these two songs are the only ones we ever recorded with Dead. I’ll be selling this album later if someone’s interested. There are a lot of bad Swedish standard ‘death’ metal bands on it, but a couple of good ones too (Merciless). Yes, we have t-shirts available, they’re black with white logo, sizes M/L/XL (big ones) and they cost KR 100 in Scandinavia, FIM 60 in Finland, DM/NLG 30 in Germany/Holland. In the rest of Western Europe they cost the same as DM 30/USD 17 in each country’s currency, in Eastern Europe it’s USD 17 by surface and USD 22 by air mail. I don’t think there is anything more I should say, but FUCK trend people. Let us suck their money and beat them up afterwards.”


The latest news is that Euronymous is planning to rerelease Mayhem’s “Deathcrush” mini-LP in April/May ’92. It’ll be available at a price of $13 in Europe, and everywhere else $13 by surface and $20 (air mail). Write to: Mayhem, Schweigaardsgt. 56, N-0656 Oslo, Norway.

Interview with Attila and Hellhammer about the 90’s scene

How come all the stories surrounding the old Mayhem – including the murder, the church-burnings, the suicide and the eating of human brains– still fascinate people, even though they happened over ten years ago?

ATTILA: “The stories surrounding Mayhem are very extreme stories, which is why they have run their course. They are fascinating and people – including me – still find them interesting. It fitted in with the music: dark, intense. Personally I have nothing against these tales and I do not mind talking about the old Mayhem. I never participated in the churchburnings, because I was never around when that happened. But I might have joined them if they asked me: I support the idea behind it. Committing suicide, like Dead did, is not my thing. I did consider suicide at a couple of moments in my life, but it is not my time yet.”


What kind of person was Euronymous?

HELLHAMMER: “Euronymous was a good guy. He was quite a social person, contrary to Dead who was as antisocial as one can be. It was obvious that he was crazy, although you didn’t notice that from him in everyday life. When I first met him he seemed a very normal person. But the more I got to know him, the more I understood that he was cracked in the head. I mean, eating other people’s brains is very disturbed. After Dead blew off his head, Euronymous took a small piece of brain, put it in his food and ate it. Just so he could claim to have eaten human tissue. But we always got along fine together, despite his crazy ways. Euronymous, Dead and I used to live together in this old house in Norway. We had our office there and our rehearsalplace. It gave being in the band a cool feeling. That house was actually the place where Dead killed himself. The police removed Dead’s corpse, but the stains of the blood and the brains remained. Euronymous moved in with his parents again, because he could not bear the stench. I had to live there for months because I did not have any other place. Sometimes I had to go into Dead’s room and came out puking.”


ATTILA: “Euronymous was a very polite and quite intelligent person. But he had some extreme personal visions, some of which I did not share. But we respected him. There are a lot of stories surrounding him, for example that he was gay and a communist. I certainly do not believe that he was gay. As for him being a communist: we talked a lot about this. After all, I am from a communist country, namely Hungary. After these conversations I do not believe that he was a communist in the political sense of the word. He was, however, fascinated by communist rulers like Mao and Stalin and the power they had over their people. They ordered the death of millions of people and that fascinated him – another sign of his extreme personality. I think he sympathised with communists but he wasn’t one of them.”


The bandmembers in Mayhem were pretty young at the time: in their early twenties. Do you think things would have went any differently if the bandmembers involved were five to ten years older?

HELLHAMMER: “Of course. But then again, Mayhem would probably not exist today if these events never took place. I do not miss Euronymous or Dead, nor the old times. I like to progress instead of looking back. Neither bandmember was a big loss: both members left this world at a pretty appropriate time for Mayhem. In order for this band to exist like it does today, both bandmembers had to die. So melancholy is not my thing. Never resent, never regret.”

ATTILA: “I myself was still young at the time and doing drugs heavily. I might have acted differently if I was older, though I do not know how. What has happened, happened. I do not know if Euronymous still would have lived if he and his murderer were a couple of years older. Frankly, even all these years I do not understand why Varg stabbed Euronymous to death. There were no signs of him going to do it. After the recordings of ‘De Mysteriis’ we were sitting in Euronymous’ place together, chatting and drinking. Everything seemed alright. Varg was a nice person and for some time we were all living at the same place. He would sometimes put loud technomusic in the stereo just to piss Euronymous off, but it was all a friendly thing. Murdering Euronymous and going to jail for it definitely wasn’t a wise thing to do. I lost not one but two good friends.”


Interview with Dead 1990 from Battery Mag

Has anything been released after “Deathcrush”? If not, when can we expect some more stuff from mayhem and what (lp/cd)?

Not really…well, we’ve recorded a few rehearsals (which we never released). What we’ve done is doing new material all the time and dropping them for better songs. We have very different ideas of how we shall sound like and it’s hard for us to make songs that we are satisfied with. These shall not sound like anything else and not be bounded to the moment of now. What I mean with that is that we first have to forget of how all the other bands sound like and not to bounded to any time to avoid trends and to find originality. Yeah, it’s now a really long time since “Deathcrush” was released and we’ve got many requests of a new vinyl but it’s hard to make new material that doesn’t become ordinary or usual after a year. However, in the latest time we have released two songs for a compilation LP that will be released by Chicken Brain Records in this summer. The songs are The Freezing Moon and Carnage. The Freezing Moon is a new one while Carnage is from the first demo Pure Fucking Armageddon that we did the mistake to limit only to 100 copies and it’s not available now. But we thought the song Carnage was worth to be picked up again. We haven’t signed anything (of course) for CBR and we’ll not get anything of the profits for the selling records later. I don’t think we’ll let any other label give out something with us in the future cause there’s no reason to do that and we’ll never sign any contract neither sell our band to fat multi-labels that don’t give a fuck about the music. Fat deals ain’t no investment as some believe, only a bad try to get rid of the job behind everything that’s necessary to do but not impossible to do by one self. We got idea of that we have to use the so Darkened Black name De Mysteriis Dom. Sathanas for something a long time ago. That title comes from a story of a book with that name, wich is Latin for “Lord Satan’s secret files” and it’s thought to exist in only one copy and I won’t give up searching for it…we had a finished lyric for that song and the music to it was almost complete also. By then we had to drop all the new songs we were onto making cause of a festival in Poland that was supposed to be then…if fucked up and we later should pick up those songs, more or less finished, we’d forgot about them but we have to use that song “De Mysteriis…” by all means…it’ll be the most complicated thing we ever have been involved in. That is also what the LP, that we hope will come out soon, will be entitled.


Talking about live shows, judging by what you have told me about your show (impaled pigheads and such stuff), you seem to have a very brutal stageacting. Aren’t you afraid that perhaps some moron takes it too seriously beats up someone (or hurts him seriously)?

There’s always some fuckheads that do not understand what it’s all about and cannot stand others that are there for the music and the problem is at almost every concert not depending of what band is playing I think. If someone’s diving or something there’s often some asshole who cannot see what that is and then wanna start up a fight of that reason. Idiots that go to concerts only to throw bottles and destroy for both the band the crowd shouldn’t be there. We haven’t had many liveshows and that one we could have those “effects” there were many into Speedmetal and glam-fag-rock and they left as soon as the pigheads begun to fly around in there…but something I do hate indeed is mosh! I can’t accept it exist children that think of themselves as funny and noisy recording demos after demos after a couple of weeks after on more trendy band has formed. A kid of 11 years or so has listened to CARCASS and the day after he finds out he shall form a band along with pals from school. It’s like that these bands got created and they never care or know of, they only fuck with the scene by their hundreds of demos that are teeming everywhere and it sounds all the same! I REFUSE to listen to that! And especially never laugh to their fun- pix, fun-lyrics or fun-noise they make…to all those things that are supposed to be childish and non- seriously funny, it’s only themselves that manage to laugh but no one else does! I think it was necessary to tell of that, too.


Do you use any other effects than pigheads on stage?

pigheads, as well as other heads, is what we try to have at all gigs. But also others are kind of planned at the future shows. It needs sick ideas and also money as well as it gotta suit to the place we’re playing at…for example if we use impaled pigheads in an Islamic country we’ll surely get killed then. Another thing is that what’s the most disgusting thing to do right here to fuck with the wimps might not be the same effect somewhere else and if we ever come to for example India, the most evil thing that we can do there that I have in mind will be to sacrifice a “holy cow” on stage. I wanna have stage equipment at our shows of Transylvanian landscape, instruments of torture that are from the 1th century real trees from a dead forest, spotlights that are used to “paint” dark colors of dusk and later moonshine…different animalheads and human craniums hanging in meat hooks by chains from the dead trees and the heads have huge screws in their eyes…that’s what I think would make the perfect mood. But if we can build such things by ourselves pay for the giant expenses it surely will be include and make it portable also, I can’t imagine if we will ever be able to make. But to tell of what else we as the show or effects is when I cut myself up. Something I study is how people react when my blood is steaming everywhere but that’s not why I do it. I like to cut, in others preferably, but ti’s mostly in myself. That I can’t do too often which makes me a bit mourning…the nearest thing is three gigs in Sweden wich will probably be in the end of May and I think of if I can take a highly tuned kitchen saw machine that’s cutting and sawing faster that it’s possible to control it…that would be a nice thing to have there I think. Another band here, that’s the one of the guy that’ll set this whole thing up by the way, will try to get a goat that they shall sacrifice on stage by a fireman’s axe but I just can’t remember the band name. Another Blackmetal band that’ll play there is Grotesque (from gothenburg) + some other death metals. If it shall be “gore” that it gotta be REAL effects and only snuff is real!


Will you always play death/black metal, or can we expect a change of the style?

Maybe now we have learned more of our instruments since the start…of the present time the only we have to compare with of a new recording are the two tracks that’ll be on the Swedish compilation LP, I have no idea of what responses it’ll be from it. But yes, we have changed a bit, but nor more that what can be expected after almost three years since last recording and two new members. And it is a difference between the first P.F.A. deo (Pure Fucking Armageddon – ed) and Deathcrush. I can’t tell much more that my own thoughts of how a band shall sound. That is to keep the sound and spirit that once existed in the time of what now is “old fashioned Blackmetal” of VENOM and the earliest bands that came by then like SODOM, POISON (German of course)!, BATHORY, DEATH and so on before they either vanished or wimped out to get big bucks and groupies. What has happened after that is hard to ignore when one got reminded by totally unserious and senseless demos of noise with either vegetarian or anti-everything lyrics or no lyrics at all – can they never realize they’re all fuckheads and should never form those fun-bands tha teach such dude is in 30-50 crap bands with thousands of half-second songs? But they can eat their fucking (polluted) salad believing that they do the scene a big favour while I stick with what I worship and that so many other seem to be indeed scared of – Once there was something illful that ordinary wimps feared and never understood. Something none had heard anything like of ever before. There were less numbered bands and the scene was new and not big but there was a friendship, so limited but strong. In leather and spikes.


Do you only listen to death/black metal, or also something else? In america it seems as if many people listen to many different music styles, not only metal. So what do you think of it?

Each place seems to me having an own scene. And mostly it can be noticed if a band is American by their sound. I’ve never been there, only heard lots of strange comments by friends who visited it. I I better keep these comments untold…Do you believe me when I say that I don’t listen to anything else that Death/black? To me that’s what exists and nothing else. I listen to what I find to be evil or black for the evil’s sake. That’s why I begun listen to it. Satanic sound of pure evil illful brutally that I couldn’t get out of grey matter! I still like it that way and that’s why I continue having about the same ideas of it. In lyrics I try to express various evil thoughts and the same in for example drawings. That’s one reason why I think effects on stage show is of much importance.


Your voice reminds me of quorthon from bathory and that leads me to the next question. I read that you and quorthon aren’t what one could call friends, so could you tell me about what’s up with that or don’t you want to talk about it?

Why is Quorthon talked of so often? (I don’t mean by you but from so many…). I don’t think he invented Occultism or the deathway of singing. I listen to the early stuff by BATHORY only. Like the first LP and the compilation LP’s, but later he lost all the ability to crush and kill. I don’t think so many outside of Scandinavia have met him but I can tell you it’s not worth the try. Some dudes I know more or less know that guy, but I’ve met him only once. He is one of the worst motherfucking wimps I’ve had the misfortune to meet! Do you by the way know it’s his DAD who’s “the boss” and he runs his record label and Quorthon goes nowhere without his daddy…”Quorthon” has changed his name real name now to Ace and he doesn’t have the slightest of any Occultism and especially not of the arts his lyrical stuffs content! I just don’t understand WHO makes the lyrics…could it be the Boss? The only interest Quorthon has is to fucking around on’s rockclubs and the so-called Vvornth, the drummer, he picked up from a GLAMROCK band!!! How strange how everything he says in interviews is changing completely all the time…in the earliest days of BATHORY he explains how important it is with the darkness in songs and he’s writing of the satanic influences he has cos that’s his greatest possession. He also explained of a gig that fucked up in the earliest line-up of BATHORY before he became a one-man band for two Lps – the reason why that gig wasn’t possible to set up was cos of the extreme stage-show they were suppossed to have then. Things for example sacrifice a lamb…that’s NOT how he talking now at all. He became for a while so totally against Satanism, black magic and so on to change AGAIN to “nothing is wrong with Satanism, black art, the evil etc. but what I hate is the Satanists”…more amazing than ever I think! He’s a fuckhead and he’s too much of a superstar and he can’t talk to normal people cos he’s far too fucking famous for that! Haven’t seen any likely case of wimpism before! WOE! And he didn’t like the the sacrificed quineapighead impaled on an upside-down cross with nailed eyes that I thought smelled so nice…


“What I prefer in movies is when they’re underground produced (like Evil Dead I and Bad Taste…) or the classical HORROR sort-not “gore” but ESPECIALLY snuff, thought I haven’t seen many snuff movies. It’s hard to know what is snuff in those movies cos usually not the whole movie is snuff…have you seen Cannibal Ferox (it’s got about 20 other titles and it was banned in 32 countries!), it’s got 20 minutes of snuff in it. One of the most STUPID things I’ve seen on TV, it was a movie review on a Swedish TV (a long time ago), and they talked about how horrible and awful some movies can be to see and later they show the movies they suggested everybody not to see, like for example Canniba Ferox… It’s hard to imagine such brainless dudes having something like that, but anyway the movie clips they showed there were great, hehe. I like to research in how one reacts when watching real deaths, or preferably real corpses (not on video but for real). A friend of mine who works in a morgue has told me that those who use to work with preparing autopsies, after a long day’s or night’s work have to “return to reality” before they just can walk out from there to go home or anywhere…the smell of rotting bodies uses the affect really different on people really. I’ve heard that of when there are new nurses to a hospital they got checked out in if they can stand the smell and the sight of dead humans by calling them down to the morgue floor (but not yet in there) where it’s always that smell, even if it’s not so strong, just can be noticed. And those who get pale and look like they’ll vomit at any minute are told to leave that, the others may be “qualified” for working in there”

Interview with Euronymous 1993 from BEAT mag features excerpts from Ivar Bjørnson and Faust

A PR-trick?

-Black Metal grows because people gets tired of ordinary Death Metal. In Black Metal you will find the really exciting personalitys, and the musical quality is much larger than in the other categorys, says EURONYMOUS.


He doesn’t believe in a Black Metal-trend because satanism is an obligatory part of the Black Metal-pack as we call it.

-Black Metal is so extreme that not anyone can get into it. This isn’t any funny hobby which stupid kids shall have after they comes home from school.


He and the rest of the band thinks it’s very important to get away from the rest of the metal-society.

-It has always been a lot of cliches in metal, and not even the metal- society has taken it seriously. When it then comes someone who is serious about what they are doing, everyone is shocked. Black Metal is meant to be serious, not because other shall take us seriously, but because we are serious. It is talk about religion, and we praise the evil and we believe blindly in a godly creature just like a christian.


What is so solid with evilness?

-What is so solid about goodness then? It’s just the way it is. I neither will or can define it. It is a basically hate to humankind. I have no friends, just the guys I’m allied with. If my girlfriend dies I won’t cry, I will missuse the corpse.



-Just because we doesn’t sing “Satan come eat dinner with me”, it will always be a satanic concept behind it, says the MAYHEM-guys.


But isn’t really the satanic thing to deny the logical?

-Yes, in a way, but the human is nothing compared to the great cosmos. Scientists can’t disprove the existence of religion. No matter how hard you try, you can’t explain the universe. You can’t leave out a religious belief.


All of you in MAYHEM have a good relationship to your parents, how does it harmony with this thing that you shall be evil all the time?

-As long as you can have personal royalties, why not? A christian can’t be 100% good all the time either. The thing that is most important to us is to be active with the spreading of evilness. We don’t have to prove that we are evil, and we don’t care about what people thinks about us. If you will you can look at us as unserious. WE ARE NOT FOR YOU!


Is this interview a part of the spreading of evilness?

-It is publicity for us and the bands, then we sell more records and spread evilness through them. Satanists with wellpaid jobs don’t need interviews like this.



-This thing is meant to be dark. Even if I listen to bands like Tangerine Dream, Pink Floyd and Marillion, I try to create my own mood out of the music. I’m listening after the dark, says EURONYMOUS.


On the DEATHCRUSH-record the humour-element is absolutely there – it’s a picture of a cow on the label.

That was then. Now we mean partying is bad. It’s better to sit and cut yourself, than to go out and have fun. Sometimes you have to face some challenges, but they must be fought with a hard hand. It’s many years since I managed to feel love. This is just the way it is. This is a main concept.



One of the members of MAYHEM was found guilty when he mutilated a person badly. The victim’s face is disfigured forever.

-I crushed a bottle in the head of a guy which was shaking a lady that was together with me. When his pal came against me it blackened. I don’t remember it, but I drove the crushed bottle right in his face.


I’ve heard rumours about the thing with your old vocalist. I’ve heard that it was the rest of the band which killed him. Pieces of his skull shall have been used as necklaces. The police is sure about the thing that he commited suicide.

-It was a time when we didn’t want to disprove the rumours. It was good publicity for us, but now it has become so heavy, that we thought we should do something about it, says the MAYHEM-guys, and thinks about the ‘niceguy’ interview in Dagbladet.

– They who got brains to think with will understand it.


The rumours about the thing that a innercircle of ten satanists shall kill other people?

– No comment.



It has been operated with three categorys of satanists :

  1. They who call themself satanists after they have practiced occult rituals
  2. The followers of The Church of Satan and it’s grounder Anton LaVey
  3. Often called ‘the violent satanists’ – Satanworshipers

The guys in MAYHEM are against the people in category 1 and 2.

-Church of Satan call themselves satanists because they think it’s funny and provoking. They are really atheists and are against the church because it has caused so much evil upon the time. They predicate that the christians are evil and theirself are good ones. We are against The Church of Satan because we’re against goodness.


A central name for satanists has been Aleister Crowley (1875-1947). His ‘Book of Law’ has been in use of very many which is interested in the occult. The guys in MAYHEM is against him too.

-Aleister Crowley called himself ‘The world’s most evil person’. But what the fuck did he do which was so evil? NOTHING! Conclusion: Crowley was nice.


Crowley is most famous for his device ‘Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Law’.

-That law is totally wrong. People shall do what WE want them to do. We’re against freedom, and forced a band from Rogaland in Norway – Belsebub – to split up. We started the whole thing in Norway and we are in command, it’s just the way it is. It’s hard to explain why. Both Crowley and The Church of Satan preach the thing that people shall get strong, only the strong ones have the rights to survive and the weak shall be crushed. ‘TRUE SATANISTS IS SUPERHUMANS’ says the MAYHEM-guys as it was a normal thing to be.



-It is three REAL Black Metal-bands in Norway, says METALION in SLAYER MAG. That is MAYHEM, DARKTHRONE and BURZUM. BURZUM’s mainman is COUNT GRISHNACKH, and the most of you surely have noticed that he is arrested, suspected for setting two churches afire. Besides these three we have the ‘family’ – ENSLAVED, EMPEROR and ARCTURUS – and all the garagebands which only time will show what stands for. Norwegian Black Metal isn’t only good to be norwegian, says Metalion. He means that norwegian bands are totally serious both with music and what they stand for.

-The music is really special, it has a mood which you almost never hear anywhere else.


EURONYMOUS talks about a norwegian school.

-In foreign countries it’s most focused on riffs, but we in Norway does it more intricate. We compose the songs, and do not have the standardized flat sound that the foreign bands which goes to Florida (Morrisound) or Stockholm (Sunlight) has. Soon Norway will get all the attention, says EURONYMOUS.



Many of the bands has left the speed behind, and picked up the slower, darker and more gothic moodness.

-BURZUM doesn’t exactly sound brutal, but creates the sound of fog and depression, the evil groundmood can be as well as important, explains EURONYMOUS. He is experimenting with classical structures in his own band MAYHEM, but puts thundering speedy drums in the background.


ENSLAVED is another band that is experimenting with classical elements. Their fifteen year old mainman – D. YMER – is really into GRIEG and CHOPIN.

-Musically we’re different from most of the other bands because we use a lot of keyboard. It sounds more majestic, says D. YMER and tells that they play epic viking-symfonies. ENSLAVED is practicing a viking-concept which contains norse lyrics and a inversed norse belief.

-LOKE (the supreme), FENRIS and VOTAN is our gods, and we are therefor not a Black Metal-band. But we feel a musicaly frienship with them, explains D. YMER. They are soon to release their debut-record – ‘HORDANES LAND’ – on the english company Candlelight.



On the same company as ENSLAVED is EMPEROR from Notodden (Norway). The guy who runs Candlelight asked EURONYMOUS if he knew about some good bands in Norway, says drummer FAUST.

EMPEROR doesn’t look at themselve as a Black Metal-band either.

-I am not a satanist, but I praise the evil. It’s as simple as that. Satanism is a personal thing, I don’t ask other people about things like that, says FAUST. But that did the mother of the bassplayer in the band when she read about COUNT GRISHNACKH. She told him to quit the band or move out. The twentyone year old guy have dropped the bassplaying…..


Musically EMPEROR is different from the rest of the band because of their extremely shrieking vocals and with speedy changes from slow to ultrafast. The slow parts is a thing they share with the Oslo-band ARCTURUS, which have released an 7″. They are something special, because their music is based on synth. Immortal is also a part of the family. Their debut – DIABOLICAL FULLMOON MYSTICISM – is out in these days on the french company Osmose. Their music is more primitive than the others.


With all the attention around the norwegian Black Metal-scene – nationaly as well as internationaly – the bands maybe will start to sell more records. EURONYMOUS thinks that is a good thing.

-It is better that we in the ‘family’ earns a lot of bucks, than that all these Life Metal bands does it. They are just an insult to the old VENOM which created the whole thing, and they can thank for their existence. No matter, we will never get commercial. If we can manipulate a lot of stupid kids, that’s great.